One of my dealer called me up and asked my advice about the burned RO motor. His client was complaining about the quality of the said motor and again asking for a warranty.
Based on the details and data that I gathered, it was due to incomplete safety feature of the system. Here are the results of the investigation.
1) System is suffering from cavitation or low feed volume(volume of water coming to the pumphead/Procon is insufficient) thus breaking the carbon parts of the pumphead.
2)As the carbon parts were broken, it prevented the pumphead shaft from rotating and since it was attached to the RO motor shaft,said motor was forced to rotate it’s shaft unsuccessfully resulting to the increase in ampere rating that lead to the burning of the motor winding.
Burning of motor could have been prevented if safety devices were incorporated to the design of the system such as:
1)Low pressure switch- in events where in there is low feed volume and pressure, said switch would immediately cut the current, thus stopping the rotation of the RO motor and pumphead.
2)Magnetic contactor and overload relay- should there be an increase in ampere rating,at a given setting, it will cut the power supply going to the RO motor.
Most of the times,clients felt that if there is a problem with any of the parts they are using, they usually blame it’s quality and not considering the entire design of the system.
Just sharing my experience.
- Orly Shanghai
Monday, February 29, 2016
Friday, February 26, 2016
How Did Water Refilling Station came to existence?
The main issue long time ago, was the need for safe drinking water. We all know that fresh water is becoming to be so limited and alternative source must be considered in order for us to be prepared for the worst possible scenario that we might be encountering in the near future, which is the scarcity of safe drinking water.
During the early stage of water treatment in our country, the first has been introduced was home purifying gadget sold by Electrolux.
Now, let’s start to analyze, the said product was made to address the problem for safe drinking water, “TRUE”, but the dilemma lies on the fact that not all people from all walks of life can buy the product.
Solution should be for the benefits of all and not just for those who are privileged enough to buy the system. How about the ordinary people? Will they be deprived from availing the access of safe drinking water?
The next solution that was introduced was bottled water. Now we analyze again, is it affordable to all? “YES”.
If we try to analyze carefully, although bottled water is affordable, still it will entail a big cut from our daily budget.
If an individual needs to drink 1.5 liters of water for one day and if the price of 500 ml. is P10.00, you need to pay 30.00 a day just to maintain your body in good condtion. What if there are 4 to 5 members in the family. How much will it cost?
Everytime you are buying the bottled water, you are not just paying for the water but also for the bottle.
Finally, the most practical solution that was developed, was the introduction of water refilling station. Again let’s analyze, will it be affordable to all concerns? “YES”.
In this concept, you are just actually paying the water.
The container on the other hand will just be paid once, then, you can just have it refilled.
As a summary, Water Refilling Station Business came into existence in order to adhere the need for safe drinking water at a very practical means. Its stability was founded on the basic needs in order for us to survive.
The only problem now is the cut throat competition in the market. If you will ask me for a solution? Sad to say, realistically speaking, no comment as of the moment.
Hope that I have imparted some ideas to all of you readers.
- Orly Shanghai
During the early stage of water treatment in our country, the first has been introduced was home purifying gadget sold by Electrolux.
Now, let’s start to analyze, the said product was made to address the problem for safe drinking water, “TRUE”, but the dilemma lies on the fact that not all people from all walks of life can buy the product.
Solution should be for the benefits of all and not just for those who are privileged enough to buy the system. How about the ordinary people? Will they be deprived from availing the access of safe drinking water?
The next solution that was introduced was bottled water. Now we analyze again, is it affordable to all? “YES”.
If we try to analyze carefully, although bottled water is affordable, still it will entail a big cut from our daily budget.
If an individual needs to drink 1.5 liters of water for one day and if the price of 500 ml. is P10.00, you need to pay 30.00 a day just to maintain your body in good condtion. What if there are 4 to 5 members in the family. How much will it cost?
Everytime you are buying the bottled water, you are not just paying for the water but also for the bottle.
Finally, the most practical solution that was developed, was the introduction of water refilling station. Again let’s analyze, will it be affordable to all concerns? “YES”.
In this concept, you are just actually paying the water.
The container on the other hand will just be paid once, then, you can just have it refilled.
As a summary, Water Refilling Station Business came into existence in order to adhere the need for safe drinking water at a very practical means. Its stability was founded on the basic needs in order for us to survive.
The only problem now is the cut throat competition in the market. If you will ask me for a solution? Sad to say, realistically speaking, no comment as of the moment.
Hope that I have imparted some ideas to all of you readers.
- Orly Shanghai
Is it Still Advisable to Put Water Refiliing Station Business Nowadays?
Is it advisable to put up a water refilling station business nowadays,considering that there are so many existing stations everywhere?
As I have discussed in my previous entry in this blog, safe drinking water is a necessity and since fresh water reserve is becoming to be limited, treating water for drinking application is a must.
Considering our population of 85 to 90 million, the existence of 15 to 20 thousand water station is not enough to serve the demand.
It is a forecast that, time will come, the only means of obtaining safe drinking water is to have it treated.
As years go by,population will continue to grow, thus, increasing the demand for safe drinking water.
There is really, a need for more water station to meet the demand of the entire drinking public. However the manner by which the business is presented, is not designed to adhere the the future needs but on a profit oriented concept.
Presently, if you try to inquire for a water refilling station package, what will be high lighted are the profit, ROI,market expansion.
All of them are the brighter side of the business,but how about the darker side? It was never presented and you yourself will be the one to discover it the moment you operate the business. Sabi nga MABULAGA ka and there’s no way of turning back, so continue ka na lang.
Based on survey,most of the refilling stations that are operating, specially here in Metro Manila survived due to lower operational expenses and minimal sales of 50 to 100 containers per day at the price of 30 to 35 per container.
Water stations having a huge operations, are most likely having big problems in their business. Alam ko marami magreact dito pero realistically speaking, try to rate your operation and see to it, how far have you gone?
Since there is a cut throat competition and the main issue is price, there is no practical way of increasing the profit but to lessen the operations expenses.
That is why as you can see right now, bugbugan ng bugbugan sa presyo and in the end lahat ng water stations apektado.
If this trend will continue to happen, marami station ang magsasara and the preparation to serve the needs of the consumer in the near future will not be successful.
Imagine madagdagan ang population but ang water stations are few because ayaw na nila magtayo kasi di na kumikita.
What should be proper is that, if a water station will be put up today, it will be meant to operate as long as there is a demand for safe drinking water.
Supposedly, the concept of marketing is not to outsmart each other by dropping the price, but it should be services and quality.
Aside from that, water station business is a micro business, some sort of a backyard business, sari sari store and the likes.
If you will try to operate on a small scale basis and territorial, then that is where the profit will come and eliminating cut throat because there is no need to expand your area.
As I am saying,putting up a water station business nowadays is still profitable but not to the extent of becoming a millionaire in a very short period of time. It requires personal management, patience and the right vision for the business.
I know after making this,many will comment, react and contradict my views, but I just want to inform you readers that what I have made is based on my personal opinion, everyone is entitled to his own opinion and this is the very essence of this blog, to inform the readers what we feel on certain issues and concern.
- Orly Shanghai
As I have discussed in my previous entry in this blog, safe drinking water is a necessity and since fresh water reserve is becoming to be limited, treating water for drinking application is a must.
Considering our population of 85 to 90 million, the existence of 15 to 20 thousand water station is not enough to serve the demand.
It is a forecast that, time will come, the only means of obtaining safe drinking water is to have it treated.
As years go by,population will continue to grow, thus, increasing the demand for safe drinking water.
There is really, a need for more water station to meet the demand of the entire drinking public. However the manner by which the business is presented, is not designed to adhere the the future needs but on a profit oriented concept.
Presently, if you try to inquire for a water refilling station package, what will be high lighted are the profit, ROI,market expansion.
All of them are the brighter side of the business,but how about the darker side? It was never presented and you yourself will be the one to discover it the moment you operate the business. Sabi nga MABULAGA ka and there’s no way of turning back, so continue ka na lang.
Based on survey,most of the refilling stations that are operating, specially here in Metro Manila survived due to lower operational expenses and minimal sales of 50 to 100 containers per day at the price of 30 to 35 per container.
Water stations having a huge operations, are most likely having big problems in their business. Alam ko marami magreact dito pero realistically speaking, try to rate your operation and see to it, how far have you gone?
Since there is a cut throat competition and the main issue is price, there is no practical way of increasing the profit but to lessen the operations expenses.
That is why as you can see right now, bugbugan ng bugbugan sa presyo and in the end lahat ng water stations apektado.
If this trend will continue to happen, marami station ang magsasara and the preparation to serve the needs of the consumer in the near future will not be successful.
Imagine madagdagan ang population but ang water stations are few because ayaw na nila magtayo kasi di na kumikita.
What should be proper is that, if a water station will be put up today, it will be meant to operate as long as there is a demand for safe drinking water.
Supposedly, the concept of marketing is not to outsmart each other by dropping the price, but it should be services and quality.
Aside from that, water station business is a micro business, some sort of a backyard business, sari sari store and the likes.
If you will try to operate on a small scale basis and territorial, then that is where the profit will come and eliminating cut throat because there is no need to expand your area.
As I am saying,putting up a water station business nowadays is still profitable but not to the extent of becoming a millionaire in a very short period of time. It requires personal management, patience and the right vision for the business.
I know after making this,many will comment, react and contradict my views, but I just want to inform you readers that what I have made is based on my personal opinion, everyone is entitled to his own opinion and this is the very essence of this blog, to inform the readers what we feel on certain issues and concern.
- Orly Shanghai
Types of Customers in WRS Business
1) Loyal - customers that has strong ties with the suppliers.
2) Opportunistic - customers that consider other benefits from the suppliers. These types of customers do not have loyalty to any suppliers.
3) Seasonal - customers that buy product from time to time or on a “as per requirement basis”.
4) Incidental - those who become customer by chance.
Since the objective nowadays of the water stations is to outsmart each other by offering so many benefits to the client in order to get them, unknowingly they are being armed with all the artilleries that they will be using during the negotiation.
Water stations have created their own ghost which will later haunt them.
Sad to say, but that is the reality right now and as of the moment, no concrete solution is being undertaken on this issue.
- Orly Shanghai
2) Opportunistic - customers that consider other benefits from the suppliers. These types of customers do not have loyalty to any suppliers.
3) Seasonal - customers that buy product from time to time or on a “as per requirement basis”.
4) Incidental - those who become customer by chance.
- A) Regular user-those who have encountered problems with other suppliers.
- B) New -those who buy the product at given period of time.
Since the objective nowadays of the water stations is to outsmart each other by offering so many benefits to the client in order to get them, unknowingly they are being armed with all the artilleries that they will be using during the negotiation.
Water stations have created their own ghost which will later haunt them.
Sad to say, but that is the reality right now and as of the moment, no concrete solution is being undertaken on this issue.
- Orly Shanghai
Thursday, February 25, 2016
Water Refilling Equipments, Where is it now Made?
Just wanna make a follow up infos about the items being imported from China.
It is true that most of the items are now coming from China but we have to categorize the suppliers.
1) Branded items - when we talk of BRANDED, these are items originally made from other countries but now they transferred their factory in China due to low labor cost. It does not mean na dahil made in China eh fake or imitation, these are original items manufactured in China but under the strict supervision of the mother company abroad. Let us say for example is yung NIKE shoes are originally made in US but now sa China or Malaysia na ginawa pero still the quality is the same.
2) OEM items (Original Equipment Manufacturer)- these are class A factory in China making good quality products that will adapt to the quality requirements of their clients abroad. Let say, Kemflo is a Taiwan/China based operation but producing all the requirement of a certain Water Company in the United States (Di ko na sasabihin kung anong brand), so kapag bumili ka ng item na yon sa US, sasabihin made in US but in reality OEM products yon. Pero you can really be assured of the quality kasi US standard yon.
3) China brand items - these are really original items made in China but still have maintained the quality standard. Export quality, sabi nga.
4) Generic brands - these are items made in China made by medium size factories that are inconsistent in quality because they depend on the negotiated price. Let’s say if the price of a particular item is 10 USD and then you try to make a bargain of 5 USD then they will make the items that will match the cost of your price.Eto yung mga nakakatakot dahil unpredictable ang performance.
I have been to China for several times that is why I was able to categorize these suppliers. I even went to Las Vegas to attend the WQA exhibit and recently went to Vietnam for the Vietnam Water EXPO.
Sometimes things you don’t know must be discovered for the good of all.Kaya nga sometimes natatawa na lng ako if I will be hearing na uung ESPA 4 JAPAN is mas maganda raw s ESPA 4 CHINA eh technically same Banana yon o di kaya yung PENTEK n made in China is Fake kasi dapat daw made in US.Yung iba nga they kept on mentioning PUREGEN kasi US brand daw, pero I’ve been to PUREGEN company in Shanghai and to tell you, they are just dealer at uung mga filters nila is GENERIC na nilagyan ng PUREGEN brand.
Di sila puwede mag classify as OEM kasi kung sino-sinong factory lang ang gumagawa non. If anyone of you has a concern about the brand, just feel free to contact me and sabihin ko sa inyo kung ok, halos naiikot ko na kasi mga factory at dealers sa China kaya I can tell kung sablay o hindi ang item.
Burned RO Motor
One of my dealer called me up and asked my advice about the burned RO motor. His client was complaining about the quality of the said motor and again asking for a warranty.
Based on the details and data that I gathered, it was due to incomplete safety feature of the system. Here are the results of the investigation.
1) System is suffering from cavitation or low feed volume(volume of water coming to the pumphead/Procon is insufficient) thus breaking the carbon parts of the pumphead.
2)As the carbon parts were broken, it prevented the pumphead shaft from rotating and since it was attached to the RO motor shaft,said motor was forced to rotate it’s shaft unsuccessfully resulting to the increase in ampere rating that lead to the burning of the motor winding.
Burning of motor could have been prevented if safety devices were incorporated to the design of the system such as:
1)Low pressure switch- in events where in there is low feed volume and pressure, said switch would immediately cut the current, thus stopping the rotation of the RO motor and pumphead.
2)Magnetic contactor and overload relay- should there be an increase in ampere rating,at a given setting, it will cut the power supply going to the RO motor.
Most of the times,clients felt that if there is a problem with any of the parts they are using, they usually blame it’s quality and not considering the entire design of the system.
Just sharing my experience.
- Orly Shanghai
Based on the details and data that I gathered, it was due to incomplete safety feature of the system. Here are the results of the investigation.
1) System is suffering from cavitation or low feed volume(volume of water coming to the pumphead/Procon is insufficient) thus breaking the carbon parts of the pumphead.
2)As the carbon parts were broken, it prevented the pumphead shaft from rotating and since it was attached to the RO motor shaft,said motor was forced to rotate it’s shaft unsuccessfully resulting to the increase in ampere rating that lead to the burning of the motor winding.
Burning of motor could have been prevented if safety devices were incorporated to the design of the system such as:
1)Low pressure switch- in events where in there is low feed volume and pressure, said switch would immediately cut the current, thus stopping the rotation of the RO motor and pumphead.
2)Magnetic contactor and overload relay- should there be an increase in ampere rating,at a given setting, it will cut the power supply going to the RO motor.
Most of the times,clients felt that if there is a problem with any of the parts they are using, they usually blame it’s quality and not considering the entire design of the system.
Just sharing my experience.
- Orly Shanghai
Tuesday, February 23, 2016
Water Refilling Station Checklist
One of fast expanding business in Manila, and in most Metro cities nationwide, is the water refilling station. It's mushrooming on every street corner, because a lot of people in urban areas prefer to get their drinking water from these water stations, it's simply clean and safe to drink.
This is the reply from an ex-OFW about my inquiries of setting-up a water refilling station. He's an owner and supplier.
Sir ito po ang complete information ko about water refilling station. In here meron po akong offer for 1000gpd, mga tips at requirements sa wrs. About your questions... ROI maybe a year...kasi we all know that the first three months ay more on marketing.
If you will really decide to go into this business, I am willing to help you, I do not mind visiting the site kun meron na kayo. I will give you ideas how to run the business...Promo ko po yan sa first five customers ko.Salamat and you will not regret going into this business...
Go into water refilling station business because:
1000 GPD Reverse Osmosis Water Purifying Unit.
1. Filters:
- 10x54" FRP (blue), Multimedia filter with timer head
- 10x54"FRP (blue), Granular Activated Carbon, with timer head
- 10x54" FRP (Blue), Softener with timer head and brine tank
- 20" slim (blue), 5 micron sediment filter
- 20" slim (blue), polishing filter
2. Reverse Osmosis Unit
- 1 no. 2.5x40" R.O. membrane w/ stainless casing
- ½ hp procon pump, USA
- Low pressure controller
- 2 flowmeters
- 2 Pressure gauges
- stainless steel frame
- Control Panel for automation.
3. Water tanks
- 210gallons stainless steel raw water tank
- 210 gallons stainless steek product tank
4. Disinfection
- Ultraviolet - Germicdal (5GPM)
5. Pumps , motors
- 0.5hp pumps, stainless head, Italy complete with 21 gallons s/s pressure tank, pressure switch at gauge.
- 0.5 hp pumps (raw), stainles head, Italy with switch and gauge.
6. Installation :
- Installation and supply of pipes for 25sqmeter area is included in our offer.
7. Warranty
- 1 year warranty for mechanical parts
- 6 months warranty for electrical parts
8. Delivery:
Free within Metro Manila
9. Support
1 year technical support.
1 week training of your staff.
10. Package Price: P250,000.00 only
Advantages of our system
- The system is fully automatic and requires minimum maintenance and monitoring.
- The system can be upgraded upto 2000GPD with minimum cost.
- Pumps are from Italy
- Protection from low pressure, overload and short circuit.
I do not sell just to make money but also to help good and hard working people to survive this test in life - that is my commitment I know this business and I have learned to love it. Let me share my blessing. I am willing to help.
Water Refilling Station Costing, requirements and other important informations.
A. Capital Computation
B. Cost, Sales, and Profit
Sales for 1000GPD
Gallons (24hr.period) 1000
Bottles (5gal container) 200 bottles
Monthly (26days) 5,200 bottles
Sales (P35per bot) 182,000.00
Net Profit 153,500.00 monthly
Kung half lang ng capacity ang nabenta..meaning 100 bottles per day.
Sales = 91,000
Net profit 62,500.00 monthly, 64,000 monthly not bad pa rin di ba? Of course habang dumadami ang bottles produced at customer you may need to employ one more driver to accommodate the delivery.
C. Important Requirements:
E1. Location
You should have an idea kung saan ang maging market mo. Kung subdivision lang..motorcycle na lang ang biling mo dahil it can carry 25 bottles din at matipid sa gasolina. In our case P500 full tank every 8-10days. Noong jeep ang gamit namin it is P100 per day. Some uses padyak lang. Kung posible sa lugar niyo why not.
Contract : others will have a contract with motorcycle drivers P5 per gallon commission para ideliver ang tubig.
I design, supply and install water refilling station. Just do not forget to let me quote at least
when you come to a point of really starting a business.
Thank you again and hope to hear from you soon.
Good luck and God Bless,
This is the reply from an ex-OFW about my inquiries of setting-up a water refilling station. He's an owner and supplier.
Sir ito po ang complete information ko about water refilling station. In here meron po akong offer for 1000gpd, mga tips at requirements sa wrs. About your questions... ROI maybe a year...kasi we all know that the first three months ay more on marketing.
If you will really decide to go into this business, I am willing to help you, I do not mind visiting the site kun meron na kayo. I will give you ideas how to run the business...Promo ko po yan sa first five customers ko.Salamat and you will not regret going into this business...
Go into water refilling station business because:
- You can earn 40 thousand a month.
- Very easy to operate and can be installed right under your home.
- Water is a basic need. Your customer will grow as time goes by. You can pass the business to your kids and generation ahead.
- Lot of people really made it big because of this business. Do not let somebody do it before you do.
- You will be proud and happy to own a water refilling station (speaking from experience).
1000 GPD Reverse Osmosis Water Purifying Unit.
1. Filters:
- 10x54" FRP (blue), Multimedia filter with timer head
- 10x54"FRP (blue), Granular Activated Carbon, with timer head
- 10x54" FRP (Blue), Softener with timer head and brine tank
- 20" slim (blue), 5 micron sediment filter
- 20" slim (blue), polishing filter
2. Reverse Osmosis Unit
- 1 no. 2.5x40" R.O. membrane w/ stainless casing
- ½ hp procon pump, USA
- Low pressure controller
- 2 flowmeters
- 2 Pressure gauges
- stainless steel frame
- Control Panel for automation.
3. Water tanks
- 210gallons stainless steel raw water tank
- 210 gallons stainless steek product tank
4. Disinfection
- Ultraviolet - Germicdal (5GPM)
5. Pumps , motors
- 0.5hp pumps, stainless head, Italy complete with 21 gallons s/s pressure tank, pressure switch at gauge.
- 0.5 hp pumps (raw), stainles head, Italy with switch and gauge.
6. Installation :
- Installation and supply of pipes for 25sqmeter area is included in our offer.
7. Warranty
- 1 year warranty for mechanical parts
- 6 months warranty for electrical parts
8. Delivery:
Free within Metro Manila
9. Support
1 year technical support.
1 week training of your staff.
10. Package Price: P250,000.00 only
Advantages of our system
- The system is fully automatic and requires minimum maintenance and monitoring.
- The system can be upgraded upto 2000GPD with minimum cost.
- Pumps are from Italy
- Protection from low pressure, overload and short circuit.
I do not sell just to make money but also to help good and hard working people to survive this test in life - that is my commitment I know this business and I have learned to love it. Let me share my blessing. I am willing to help.
Water Refilling Station Costing, requirements and other important informations.
A. Capital Computation
| a. 1000GPD water purification b. Renovation of the station c. Sign board d. Stickers e. 100 Bottles slim f. 100 Bottles round g. Motorcycle h. two layer side car i. Paper , documentation j. Water testing k. heat gun | 250,000.00 75,000.00 3,500.00 12,500.00 12,500.00 15,000.00 65,000.00 15,000.00 3,500.00 4,500.00 2,500.00 |
| Total Say total capital | 459,000.00 500,000.00 |
B. Cost, Sales, and Profit
- Rent 5,000
- Meralco 6,000
- Water 3,500
- Driver salary 4,500
- Refiller salary 3,000
- Fuel 1,500
- Telephone 500
- Depreciation 2,500
- Maintenance 1,000
- Consumables 1,000
Sales for 1000GPD
Gallons (24hr.period) 1000
Bottles (5gal container) 200 bottles
Monthly (26days) 5,200 bottles
Sales (P35per bot) 182,000.00
Net Profit 153,500.00 monthly
Kung half lang ng capacity ang nabenta..meaning 100 bottles per day.
Sales = 91,000
Net profit 62,500.00 monthly, 64,000 monthly not bad pa rin di ba? Of course habang dumadami ang bottles produced at customer you may need to employ one more driver to accommodate the delivery.
C. Important Requirements:
- 25sq meters of space
- Good source of water. Total Dissolved Solids must be below 500ppm. Meron ako tester na ginagamit to know ang TDS ng tubig. Above this TDS (500ppm) baka the quality ng product ay maapektuhan.
- DTI
- Barangay permit
- Mayor's permit
- Sanitary permit from Municipality or DOH
E1. Location
- You do not need to rent spacious place at along highway or road dahil tataas lang ang operating cost mo. If you have 25sqmeter sa bahay mo that will be enough. Or if you will rent naman siguro maximum take a place that would cost from 5000 to 10,000 maximum at dapat meron agreement for 5 years at least.
- If you are inside a well populated subdivision, very good because from the subdivision itsel you can easily earn 2 to 4k sales per day. At matipid pa sa gasolina.
- You do not need to be along the highway dahil 90percent of your sales will be home delivery.
- Actually you are saving if you will get higher capacity of Reverse Osmosis purification unit. You need to run the system half of the time(12hrs. Only) to produce 1000 gallons. Anyway, yung equipments naman ay madali i-upgrade.
- If you can afford, get the fully automatic system. Wala ka ng babantayan na mapupuno or aapaw sa tanke. Just switch it on at it will automatically start and stop when empty at full na ang mga tangke.
You should have an idea kung saan ang maging market mo. Kung subdivision lang..motorcycle na lang ang biling mo dahil it can carry 25 bottles din at matipid sa gasolina. In our case P500 full tank every 8-10days. Noong jeep ang gamit namin it is P100 per day. Some uses padyak lang. Kung posible sa lugar niyo why not.
Contract : others will have a contract with motorcycle drivers P5 per gallon commission para ideliver ang tubig.
I design, supply and install water refilling station. Just do not forget to let me quote at least
when you come to a point of really starting a business.
Thank you again and hope to hear from you soon.
Good luck and God Bless,
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